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1- Introduction


Dear brothers and dear friends, we would like to put at your disposal an excerpt from the interview of British Author and Speaker David Icke on the so-called Covid-19 pandemic that is currently paralyzing the whole world. It emerges from this interview, that the Covid-19 pandemic is a big scam of the agents of Hell who rule this world. The real purpose of this sad comedy is to finalize the project of the New World Order that these luciferians have begun since, but which according to their projection, had fallen far behind.


As we have been telling you for several years now, we are living in the end times, and in accordance with Biblical prophecies, the whole world will soon turn into an unprecedented dictatorship, leading to the confiscation of all human freedoms. We are about to enter what the Bible calls the reign of the antichrist, a reign in which cash will disappear, and every inhabitant of the earth in order to live or survive will be forced to accept a chip either on the hand or on the forehead. For all of you who have never heard of this subject, we advise you to read chapter 13 of the book of Revelation, which is the last book of the Bible, or the Teaching entitled "The Mark of the Beast", which you will find on the website www.mcreveil.org.


This interview with David Icke by journalist Brian Rose of the London Real news channel will give you a good understanding of what is hidden behind this lie of the century, called Covid-19. Therefore, remember very well that The Coronavirus Does Exist; but the Covid-19 presented as a pandemic is a masquerade, aimed at setting up the reign of the antichrist announced in the Bible for thousands of years.


[Beginning of Interview]


2- Covid-19 is a scam


Brian: I'm Brian Rose. My guest today is David Icke, the English writer and public speaker known since the 1990s as a professional conspiracy researcher, calling yourself a full time investigator into who and what is really controlling the world. You are the author of 21 books and 10 DVD, and have lectured in over 25 countries speaking live for up to 10 hours to huge audiences, filling stadiums like Wembley Arena. You are here for the second occasion today to talk about the Covid-19 pandemic and global lockdown, the looming economic recession, the impact of 5G technology and the violations of our rights and freedoms of speech. David, welcome back to London Real.


David: Thank you, Brian.


Brian: It's been 19 days since you last came on the show. Since then, we are told that millions of people have been infected worldwide with this disease, with deaths now approaching 100 000. Nearly 3 billion people are locked down in their homes. Markets are off 30% and a global recession is pending. Our last conversation went, quite frankly, viral, David. Over 7 million views that I can count, the most comments of any episode in London Real history, which tells me one thing, that people want to hear your opinion and people want to hear the truth.


David, as you know, I don't agree with everything you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. And at a time in this country when the regulator, Ofcom, is banning media outlets from talking about the "5G Corona virus, conspiracy theories", I get very concerned. A lot of people told me not to do this interview today, again. But in America, where I'm from, the First Amendment of the Constitution is the right to free speech and freedom of the press. And that right is being violated right now as we speak. George Orwell, in his famous book, 1984, said, "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." And David, that's what we're going to do today. Honestly, I didn't even know if we'd make it to this moment. I thought we might be shut down today. Where do we start? Is there a virus?


David: Since we last spoke, Brian, I've spent every waking moment, which has been most of every 24 hours, devouring information from virologists, specialists, doctors all around the world - in America, in Germany, in Austria, Italy - who would never be allowed to get near the BBC or CNN, because they are demolishing the official story of this hoax. And if people go to DavidIcke.com when this interview is over, I've put a special posting of a series of videos; it says "For viewers to London Real", a series of videos by these doctors and others who in their various ways support all the elements of what I'm going to say today. So, this is not me pulling it out the ether. There's no point in that. What's the point? You either deal with facts and what people who should know say, or you don't.


So, this is the headline to start with, which will shock a lot of people, I'm sure. There is no Covid-19. It doesn't exist. And I'm going to explain today why that is and how therefore a pandemic perception could be pulled off. Now, one of the doctors that I've been looking at is called Andrew Kaufman. He is a medical doctor in America. He works in psychiatry now. And he, like a lot of these doctors you'll never see on the BBC, started looking at the sequence of events that's led us to where we are now. And this is how it went.


People started getting ill for whatever reason in China. And the Chinese authorities took genetic material from the fluid in the lungs of people who got ill, only a few, a very small number; and they found what we would call genetic material. It wasn't an isolated virus. It was genetic material, which can be there from a long list of causes, including lung cancer. And they decided that what was causing the illness was a virus, which has got the name Covid-19. But at no time did they isolate that so-called virus from the rest of the genetic material, much of which will be found in the bodies of most people.


So they start out before they started testing, diagnosing people in China from symptoms. And you will have heard this constantly recurring theme about Coronavirus or Covid-19, because there's lots of coronaviruses, Covid-19 symptoms. And you'll hear this recurring line, "Flu-like symptoms". Now, these flu-like symptoms can be caused by a great range of different causes. But they decided on symptoms which could come from many different causes. But those symptoms were now Covid-19. So you had flu-like symptoms Covid-19, Covid-19, and so the numbers got bigger and bigger. And when we get to 5G, there is another element to this, which I also want to talk about in relation to China and in relation to the West as well.


They then developed this test or start using this test to test for Covid-19, and it's called RT-PCR test. It doesn't test for Covid-19. It tests for the genetic material, which has loads of different content, caused by many, many, many different possible causes. And if you test positive for the genetic material, not Covid-19, you are diagnosed to have Covid-19. And if you die, to have died from it.


Now let's look at this RT-PCR test. It was developed, invented by a guy called Kary Mullis, a biochemist in America in 1984. And it's used to try to diagnose many things. The same test has been used to try to diagnose lung cancer. The same test of genetic material that they are saying, "You test positive, you've got Covid-19". Now, what did this Kary Mullis say? The inventor of the test, what did he say? "This test should not be used to diagnose infectious disease." The inventor of it said that. What are they doing to tell us who has and has not got this so-called Covid-19? The test that he said shouldn't be used for that very thing.


3- This is why people always test positive for Coronavirus


David: So, you test for this genetic material and you've got Covid-19, but there's another part of this. What this test does is it amplifies the material. In other words, it makes it larger. And as it gets larger in the cycles of amplification, what you say is causing the disease gets bigger, and you can see it more. But all the other content of the genetic material also gets amplified. And loads of this genetic material is already in the body of virtually everybody. And this is how the test works. You can fix the figures so easy like this.


You do say, 30, 35 cycles of amplification. You're going to bring into the test positive, a series of things within that genetic material that become there to be seen at that level. So you're going to get some positives, which you're going to call Covid-19. But you're going to get some negatives, because you haven't brought all that material into the testing process. But you amplify the genetic material, say, 60 times. You have brought so much of the content of the genetic material to be entering the test process that, at that level of amplification, virtually everybody will test positive because all the genetic material that's in most people's body will now be testing positive in the test through this greater amplification. This means that the number of cycles of amplification you use in different countries dictates how many positive tests you get. Therefore, all you've got to do is increase the amplification, and you're going to get more and more positives and you're going to call them Covid-19.


Brian: And amplification is how sensitive that test is.


David: Imagine you've got something the size of a pin symbolically, pinhead. You can't really understand it because it's so small, you amplify it and it becomes much greater and you can now start looking at different elements of it.


Brian: And that's what the test does. It amplifies that.


David: And another thing is that in 1890, Robert Koch, who was a bacteriologist and physician, developed something called the Koch's postulates, and these were four criteria for proving that an agent, a so-called infectious agent, is the cause of what you say it is. This includes, one, that everyone who is subject to this agent has the same symptoms. Two, that you have isolated this agent, call it a virus, bacteria, whatever, you've isolated it, so there's no other material, only that; so there's no contamination, there's no false positives in the way I've described, you are only isolating that. Three, when you take that and you, say, inject it into a living host, that host will get what you say that is causing. And when you've got that host, you are able, four, to take that material you say is causing the illness, the infectious illness, out of the person and again inject it into someone else, and they will get it.


In terms of Covid-19, not one single one of those four Koch's postulates, which have been used since 1890 by mainstream medicine the world over to prove that this is infecting and causing that, not one of them have been used and fulfilled, none of them. So then we come to something else that Andrew Kaufman identified, which was a tremendous piece of observation and research. You can see it in his video on Davidicke.com when this is over. What happens when a cell gets poisoned is it secretes something called exosomes. This is part of the natural, everyday immune system response to poisoned cells. And these exosomes, as they are released and they're only released when the cell is poisoned, and it can be poisoned for many, many reasons, it can be toxicity; it can also be poisoned through stress and fear.


Can you imagine the stress and fear that's going on in the world now, during this lockdown? It can be caused by disease, infection. And it can be caused by electromagnetic fields, which will become very relevant when we get into 5G. So these exosomes are released, and one of the roles of exosomes is poisoned cells warning other cells as they travel around, "There is a problem. Get ready. Look, there's a problem here". So, all you have to do to get exosomes released is to have poisoned cells by these various reasons. What Kaufman started looking at was, under the microscope, pictures of exosomes, what they look like. And then, he looked at an under-the-microscope picture of what is claimed to be Covid-19. These two were exactly the same.


He then starts looking at the genetic makeup of the exosomes, which you will find in the lung fluid of people who have problems with their lungs because the problems are generating the release of exosomes; and he looked at the genetic makeup claimed for Covid-19. They are exactly the same in every relevant way. An exosome and so-called Covid-19 even lock into the same cell receptors as each other. They are, as Kaufman has clearly shown, the same thing. So what's gone on here is they've taken a natural response mechanism of the body immune system to poisonous cells, and they've renamed it Covid-19. Now, this genetic material they've taken from the lungs of people and that is the basis of this test will contain, by its very nature, these exosomes. So, they're finding a natural human immune system response mechanism, this secretion from poisoned cells, and they're calling it Covid-19.


4- The real reason behind the Covid-19 victims' number


And because anyone who has any level of cellular toxicity is going to produce these exosomes, then the potential for positive tests, yes, Covid-19 is a pandemic, is endless. This global cult that I have been exposing for 30 years that is pushing the world towards this global, fascist, Orwellian state, which I've been saying was coming for 30 years has no borders. It operates in every country in the shadows. Politicians are just here today, gone tomorrow. That's always there. China is one of its biggest centres, along with America, Israel, Britain, Germany, Italy, and so just follow this sequence through.


They decide in China early on, and there's a 5G element to this, which we'll get into later, that is a virus. They don't isolate the virus, they test it, or they diagnose it, first of all, only on symptoms, and then they start testing, and they use this test which is testing for genetic material, not Covid-19. And then it starts moving out into the West. And Western doctors, nurses, medical professionals, etc. are told this Covid-19 is moving out. World Health Organization, "It's a pandemic!" And we'll get into who owns the World Health Organization later. "And these are the symptoms". So what did they start doing? Anyone with flu-like symptoms now gets diagnosed Covid-19, purely on freaking symptoms. And so the numbers start to go up.


The problem is that this is supposed to be a deadly virus. But there's not enough people dying to justify that description. So, this is what they start doing. Anyone who gets ill for any reason whatsoever, by the way, even falling down the freaking stairs, and goes to hospital, they now get tested for Covid-19. Now, because they're testing for genetic material, which is in lots of people's bodies, they get lots of positives. And although they're in hospital for late stage cancer, for heart disease and heart failure and for other caused flu-like symptoms, if they've tested positive for Covid-19, when they die, they are diagnosed as having died officially from Covid-19. This is why you are having more and more people, families, loved ones, saying, "My family member", whatever, "has been diagnosed as having died from Covid-19, and they didn't. They died from this, they died from that; they've had it for ages."


Great example. For people around the world watching this, there was a famous comedian called Eddie Large in a comedy duo called Little and Large. And Eddie Large has had a heart problem for a while, it seems. And he goes into hospital with heart failure. While he's in hospital, he gets diagnosed with Covid-19, because they tested him. And when he died, the wording in the papers, in the media was that Eddie Large died in hospital after testing positive for Covid-19. He died of a failing heart, but Covid-19 will be the diagnosis. And the numbers keep going up.


5- The media are lying about the number of deaths from Covid-19


Brian: You're saying the total numbers of deaths in the world has not changed anomalously but we've reclassified them as Covid-19 because they tested positive. And you said the language is interesting because they don't say they died from Covid-19, but they say they died after testing positive to Covid-19.


David: This is interesting. I've been making this point now for some many days. Watch the media language as they used with Eddie Large. Overwhelmingly, they're not saying that this person or this number have died from Covid-19. Very difficult to die from something you can't even prove, exists. They say, this is the wording and you see it repeated all the time, "This person or this number died after testing positive for Covid-19", not that they died from it. But look at the implication. Oh, Eddie Large died from Covid-19. Oh, everyone's getting it. And so, you have control of the figures by the way you transfer symptoms from other causes to "You've got Covid-19". You control the figures by the way you test, not for Covid-19, but for a genetic material. And you control the death figures by who you designate as died from Covid-19 when they've died from other things.


People are being designated to have died from Covid-19 who have late stage cancer. And here's a figure for you, Brian. This is official figures from the Italian medical establishment, what we would call in Britain the National Health Service. Ninety-nine percent of people who have died from Covid-19 in Italy, 99%, have had one, two, three or more other health problems for which they were in hospital or for which they were suffering. And so it's so easy to take people dying of other things and to then designate them Covid-19. This is not to say all the nurses and all the doctors are in on it. You only need a hierarchy to say this is what you have to do, and they do it. This is how it works.


The last time I looked, the death figures from all causes in Europe overall and in the United Kingdom had not risen compared with last year, etc. to the extent that it even begins to encompass all the people we are told are dying from Covid-19. And the reason is that (but that could change for reasons I'll come to when we get to 5G), vastly more people are not dying. They're being redesignated to have died from Covid-19 when they've died from other things. Now, let's look at Lombardy, which is the centre of the Italian outbreak, which has been such a focus of attention, and the rest of Europe in the Western world has been frightened to death, oh we could be Italy next.


Lombardy, which includes Milan is notorious globally for its toxic, polluted air, just as Wuhan in China is. And therefore, vastly more people die every year in Lombardy, not least from lung problems than do in the rest of Italy. The last figures I saw, just a small few hundred under one hundred thousand people died in a year in Lombardy. The next second place, the Italian region Lazio, was fifty seven thousand. So you have an area of Italy where loads of people die, not least from lung disease. And you have tremendous potential, therefore, to make this diagnostic leap, which takes people dying of other things and makes it seem as if they've died from Covid-19. And therefore, you control the figures. And what you can do, you can test in a certain way, and you can diagnose in a certain way, and the figures go up. And then when you diagnose and test in a different way, maybe you reduce the number of cycles of amplification of this genetic material that you're using in the test, the figures go down.


6- The pyramid of reaction to Covid-19


David: Have you noticed something? We had in China this extraordinary reaction, the lockdown. They were building new hospitals in a week to 10 days to meet the absolute devastating crisis of this virus, right. In next to no time by comparison with where they were, those hospitals are closed. The numbers have plummeted, they say. They're now starting flights, the economy is reopening. People are going back out on the streets. What? What happened suddenly to change all that? Because it was suddenly. But if you are testing people in a certain way, and you're diagnosing people in a certain way, and we're going to bring 5G into this later on as well, then you change the diagnosis and you change the way you're testing, what happens to the numbers? They freaking plummet. Now, another aspect of this, Brian, which is sickening beyond belief, but I've seen enough evidence that it's true, from people that have contacted me. And people have even said things on social media about what's happened to their loved ones. They want, I want to say "they", I mean this cult, which controls the pyramid of reaction. They obviously want as many dead people as possible that can be designated Covid-19 because that adds to this whole pandemic.


Brian: And we're going to talk about why, later.


David: We are going to talk about why, because it's very big and simple reason why, and it relates to what there's a lockdown at all. But, what's clearly happening is that old people in hospital for anything - first of all, they're being tested for Covid-19, this genetic material. And for reasons I've explained, a lot of them are going to test positive, not for the virus, but for the genetic material. They're going to them, and according to loved ones and families, the people on the ward, etc. have said to them it's government policy, and they're trying to get these old people, the old people that the lockdown was to protect, they're trying to get them to sign Do not resuscitate forms, which means they can be allowed to die and not resuscitated. And when they die without resuscitation, they will be called Covid-19.


Have you noticed how this is now starting to seep out? We may have to make choices about who we treat. And the older people, well, we're going to have to make some hard choices. Old people that you're telling not to resuscitate, to sign no-resuscitation forms. So they are despicably abusing the very old people that they say this lockdown is to protect. One of the family members that contacted me talked about her 83-year-old mother who was in hospital for an orthopaedic reason, not some bloody virus. And the doctors came along to her and tried to get her to sign a do not resuscitate form, and having all her faculties, she refused. But a lot of people won't; they won't know what's going on.


Brian: And they're trying to get them to sign it so they can save the other people. Is that it?


David: That's what they say. I mean, Orwellian language, Brian, you have to invert everything. They're getting them to sign it so that they can let them die. And everyone who dies is a Covid-19, because they're tested. This is the scam that's going on. And what it means is that they control the figures, by the way that they test, by the way they diagnose, and the way they count them. And thus the figures can be allowed to go up, and up, and up to justify further lockdown. And then when they think they have reached the point where everything they want from this is achieved, (which is a completely destroyed global economy, it is vast numbers of people who've lost their independent livelihood and income and thus become dependent on the state, and you do what the state says if you want your pittance every month), they will bring an end to this, and bring the numbers down. "Oh we've past the curve", when they think it's gone far enough for them to have got everything they wanted from it.


7- The agenda behind the Coronavirus lockdown


David: Look at China. They did exactly the same. "Oh, it's terrible, terrible! Oh!" Gone.


Brian: How can it be gone in China? Doesn't make any sense.


David: No sense, no sense.


Brian: This is infectious in urban environments. And people say they're lying about those numbers. I had a doctor on that says the CIA has seen these funeral urns being bought. And those are going through the roof.


David: Well, all you can say is that they're opening up China. They're opening up industry. People are going out on the street and they're opening up air travel again. The whole point is, however, that the authorities control the figures, and thus they can decide when this thing comes down anytime they want, just by changing the way that they count and changing the way that they test. Now, look at this sequence. They were not getting enough dead people from this virus to justify the fact that it was lethal. The vast overwhelming majority of people have no symptoms or mild symptoms. Now, just before I go to this point, something else I should add, this RT-PCR test cannot and does not test for how much of a "virus" you have.


They have all these different viruses, actually part of the natural immune system, in their bodies. And it will be at a level that will never trouble them. That's why you can test positive for something and have no symptoms. Because it's at such a low level, it's not going to trouble you. The immune system sorts that out, and keeps it all under control. So, what you can't do with this test is test for how much of a "virus" you actually have. And in the words of one doctor-scientist that I've quoted in recent times, you need massive amounts of it for you to be sick. So they can't even begin to tell you if your sickness is from some virus or other unless they can test how much of it you have. And this test doesn't do that. So, you don't have enough dead people to justify the fact that this is lethal. But you want to lockdown. You want this lockdown for much greater reasons, which we will come to.


So, what you do is you say, "Oh, yeah, well, not that many people have died so far. But what's coming…?" Have you noticed all around the world? That's what you're getting, "Oh wait for the surge". Well, the surge can come any time they want to increase the way that they test and increase the way that they count the numbers, so they can create a surge, that’s not a problem, or the illusion of one, but it's in the future. While Boris Johnson, the British prime minister, is saying, "Oh, there's no need for this. There's no need to shut the football down, and there's no need to close the schools", along comes Imperial College, which specialize in absolutely shite computer modelling. They have a terrible history for it over the years.


You know the computer models that say the ice caps should have gone by now, right, because, we're all dying from global warming. How do you know? "Because my computer model says so", right. So, their computer modelled Covid-19. Particularly a guy called Professor Neil Ferguson, who should never, ever in the entirety of his life, ever advise any government ever again; and he says, "Mr. Johnson, two hundred and fifty thousand to half a million people could die in Britain of this virus." So, now, Johnson shuts himself, because he's having people say to him, "You know, Boris, this is what could happen, mate, if you don't lock it down, if you don't have social distancing, and all that stuff. And you know, mate, you're going to be blamed for it" - massive change attack.


And from "They're not going to close the schools. I wouldn’t close the football…" we suddenly get to lock down. And what they're doing all around the world, they're doing it in increments. Oh, a little bit, a little bit. And they get people used to that. And they planned, if we allow it, we'll get into that later as well, they're planning to push this on into more extremes.


8- The cult behind the Coronavirus pandemic


David: When the lockdown happens, and everyone's basically under freaking house arrest, he said, Ferguson, that million, two million, whatever it was, Americans were going to die from this.


Brian: 2.1 million. And 5 hundred thousand in the UK.


David: Yeah, exactly. When the lockdown happens, Ferguson suddenly rolls back, right. "Oh, no, it's less than 20,000 people". Someone else from Imperial College who is very closely connected to Freemasonry suddenly says, "Oh, no, it could be seven thousand five hundred who will die." And by the way, the part of the college where Ferguson works takes funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Gates is absolutely as a gofer, but a rich one of this cult. He is right involved in this.


Brian: Yeah, or even less. I heard like 5700 or something.


David: Yeah. But, the lockdown's happened, and the lockdown happened on the "It's going to be quarter to half a million", right. You imagine, Brian, another computer modeller came along, Government advisor, "Well, my model says that it's not going to happen. We don't have to shut anything down. It's not going to happen." How long would he be a government advisor? Thirty seconds? They get what they want to do what they want. And so we are now in this lockdown. And in a matter of days, weeks at most, we have gone from what people perceived as a free world to global fascism, global tyranny, in which a tiny few people have got billions of people, half the world's population under house arrest. And it's been done by scamming this whole Covid-19 thing, which brings me to 5G.


Brian: Before we go to 5G, I have a question for you. I've been watching Trump's live conferences every night, and he has Dr Fauci and Dr Birks that come up. Are they aware that this test might not be accurate? Are they part of this? Or are they just following the numbers? Oh, you tested? Okay. Oh, you tested? Then that's a death. Are they part of this or are they just reacting as medical professionals or as scientists?


David: You'd have to do serious research into both of them to answer that question. But this is how it works. You got a pyramid. This is how this cult works. You've got a pyramid. And at the top are the inner circle of the cult that are driving this globally. As you come down from the pyramid peak, you're meeting more, and more, and more people. But each step down knows less, and less, and less of what they know. Because the only way that a few can manipulate the world as they do is by fierce compartmentalization, where people only know what they need to know to make their contribution, without knowing how their contribution connects with their contribution, and theirs, and theirs, and theirs to create a very different picture to what they think they're actually part of. So, as you come down - the top of the pyramid, they absolutely know they're manipulating. They know it's a scam.


But you’re in the medical profession, and you are told these are the symptoms. When you see these symptoms, you diagnose Covid-19. When anyone comes into hospital, you test for Covid-19. If they die, of whatever, you put Covid-19 on the death certificate. So, what's this great line in and after every tyranny? "I was only following orders." This is how it works. But some nurses and some medical professions have broken ranks and said, this is crap. Hey, we're diagnosing Covid-19 for people's deaths that have not died from it and so on. And also, we're being asked to get old people to sign do not resuscitate forms.


So, some of them are breaking ranks, but most of them won't. They just carry on. They might complain and moan under their breath, but they do it. This is how it works. So, you have this World Health Organization. Who's the second biggest funder of the World Health Organization, second only to the United States government? Bill Gates. He owns it. And so, this Tedros, this guy from Ethiopia, from the Marxist human rights destroying government of Ethiopia, who was the health minister of Ethiopia and was called out three times for covering up cholera epidemics, is head of the World Health Organization for no other reason than he'll do what he's told. So, the World Health Organization is driving this policy, a World Health Organization created by the Rockefellers, by the way.


Brian: That is constantly making the wrong calls these last few months.


David: Yeah. The right call for the cult, the wrong call for humanity. And so, from this WHO, you're having this policy and this way of doing things coming down, and you therefore just follow it. You follow the protocol. And I'll give you a great example of that when we get to 5G. So, because China imposed that viscous, draconian lockdown, and then the numbers started falling, what did that do? It set the precedent in countries that followed the way to deal with this like China is to have a lockdown and keep people away from each other. It's a scam. And this cult is orchestrating it. I put a memo on the Internet in the last fortnight. And it's a picture of the Earth, and it says, "Ruled by psychopaths. Run by idiots." And that dynamic is how it works. You've got the psychopaths in the background who are orchestrating it, and then you've got the clueless: Who am I? Where am I? What’s going on? People in politics, etc., who are responding to that policy like, "Oh, everyone is going to die. Oh, we better lock down then", who are clueless about what's actually going on.


9- 5G behind Covid-19


Brian: Yeah, I don't feel like Trump and Boris are part of this grand scheme. They look like they're reacting to a situation and trying to save themselves politically and maybe trying to save people based on those constraints or those beliefs.


David: You look at Boris Johnson, who's - as we speak, he's in hospital. They've got him out of the way, really. And isn't it amazing! All those people at the press conference every day - "Covid-19, Covid-19, Covid-19, lockdown" - all got Covid-19 at the same time. I thought it was very strange. Anyway, you look at Boris Johnson's face, he looks a bewildered, lost man because he's not calling the shots. He'll get the blame for it. But he's not calling the shots. His advisors are calling the shots. That's what's driving it. The shadows are driving the policy. This is why the same policy's happening in every country, because it's essentially globally dictated.


And Trump has tried at least publicly, to push back against this, because they know their own political careers as prime minister and president are going to be absolutely destroyed by this economic Armageddon that these lockdowns have created. Based on what? Freaking computer models and a bloody virus that doesn't exist and never has been shown to be. So they've been pushing back. But look at the pressure. "Mr Trump, two million Americans are going to die if you don't lock the country down." So if we come to 5G, it's funny because the first time I sat here and we chatted, what was it? 2018?


Brian: Yeah, two years. Over two years ago.


David: 2018. Part of that chat was about my opinion of 5G. And some people have started putting those clips out on the Internet because I pointed out that 5G was a tremendously greater power of electromagnetic energy than we've ever seen before. It's not just a little touch on from 4G. 4G's bad enough. 3G's bad enough. It's not just a touch on from 4G. It's a whole new part of the electromagnetic spectrum, millimetre waves, and immensely more powerful than anything we've seen before.


Now, the human body is an electromagnetic field. The brain communicates with the rest of the body and the cells electrically. It processes thought information electrically. We are, on one level, electrical, electromagnetic organisms, entities. When that electromagnetic field is in balance, we are healthy. When it is in imbalance or disharmony, we get dis-ease, disease, disharmony, which manifests as physical disease and psychological disease through the way the processing of information by the brain is affected. We are now being bombarded 24/7 by electromagnetic, technologically-generated electromagnetic fields and Wi-Fi. And in this period of running up to this virus, we've had the introduction in more and more places of 5G.


Now, there's a book called "The Invisible Rainbow" by a man called Arthur Firstenberg. And he has been researching the impact on health of electromagnetic fields, technologically generated, for a long time. And in this book he documents that every time we have had a major "epidemic", global epidemic, going back to Spanish Flu in 1918, which had nothing to do with Spain, it came out of military bases. But every time we've had this pandemic situation, so often with flu-like symptoms, it has preceded the introduction of another level of power of technologically generated radiation.


And Firstenberg said in 2018, before 5G and before Covid-19, that every single massive increase in technologically-generated radiation impacting on the Earth's magnetic field, which we're interacting with all the time, has produced massive problems in terms of health for the human population. He said that in 2018, and in 2019, they introduce 5G, which some of us and loads of doctors and scientists call for it to be stopped because it hadn't been tested for its impact on psychology and human health.


Brian: Has it had any independent testing?


David: None. The only independent testing it's had, which has been by truly independent people outside of the telecommunications industry. And you've seen people say, "This could be disastrous for human health", and they've called for it to be stopped. Doctors, scientists from 41 countries have signed letters saying this has got to be stopped. Of course, it wasn't stopped. And the reason that it's been rolled out without testing, which they've admitted. On Capitol Hill, a senator asked the members of the telecommunications industry, this was last year, "How much testing have you done? How much money have you spent on testing the effect of 5G on human health?" And they said, "Zero." Reason that is, because if they had, and that had been publicly published, 5G would never have been allowed.


Brian: But the telecom companies don't want to hurt us with the 5G, not them, particularly.


David: We come back to the pyramid. The telecommunications industry is owned by this cult, ultimately. Because what the telecommunications industry is doing with all this smart technology and satellites - beaming 5G at every inch of the Earth is absolutely crucial to total human control via Artificial Intelligence (AI). So, in the pyramid of the telecommunications industry, there will be lots of people here who are clueless about the impact and really wouldn't want to look at it because, look at all the dollars available. But when you get to that level of the telecommunications industry, the focal point of control, they absolutely know what it's going to do. And why? Because they want that done, given its effect on humanity. They have the ability to manipulate people psychologically, and just basically they could do a mass cull with 5G.


So, what does 5G do? What does 4G do, but 5G even more? It poisons the cells, which get poisoned by technological electromagnetic fields. The cells get poisoned. They release exosomes as an immune response. And they test for Covid-19. So, where was the first Chinese city to introduce 5G just before the virus broke out? Wuhan. So, here's another scenario that people might just take on board and think about. While this lockdown has been going on, 5G masts are being rolled out at a very rapid rate. In the same period as this lockdown, something like another 21 towns and cities have been opened in Britain to 5G. 5G is being rolled out all over the world at a very great rate of knots.


Brian: This is a time where everything is supposed to be stopped. And they're still building towers overnight.


David: Yes, because that's considered essential work. And to the cult, it is essential because they want 5G everywhere. At the same time that this is happening, in terms of towers all over the world being rolled out, and of course, people are not able to protest because they are isolated from each other and under house arrest; that's why they're doing it. Elon Musk, who is, I wouldn't call him a psychopath because that's not enough. This man is a super psychopath. Reason, he knows what this impact is going to be. He is putting, week by week, more and more satellites at low altitudes beaming 5G at the Earth. And he has permission for like tens of thousands already, and he's just getting towards that goal. What he wants is forty-two thousand. Already with just the ones he's got up there now, the astronomy community is been complaining around the world, they can't see the freaking night sky anymore because of these satellites which are beaming 5G at the Earth.


And while this lockdown has been going on, Elon Musk has been given permission by the Federal Communication Commission, which allowed the rollout of 5G without testing because it's owned by the cult. Elon Musk has been given permission for a million ground antenna in America, which will, through electromagnetic fields, connect with the satellites. They are creating a technological subreality of 5G, what they call the smart grid, surrounding the world with satellites and pouring this stuff in because they're creating a subreality to which the human mind will be connected to via AI. And they're even giving you a time when this should start to happen in a serious way, 2030, a year that keeps coming up for everything. So, that’s what is going on.


Brian: And he got this permission during the lockdown?


David: Yes, during the lockdown. 5G is a range of frequencies. It's not one frequency. If people go to that package for London Real viewers on my website, they'll see in the line of videos a New York doctor. This is a New York doctor who is so exasperated, he made a video, he just kind of really stepped out of the line, out of the box, and he's been working at an emergency intensive care unit at a hospital in New York. And what he says on this video is, "Look, this is not Covid-19. It's not what we're told it is." He says, "We were told" - look at the pyramid, right. And everyone does as they're told. He said, "We were told to treat people with lung problems that come to us as people who have an infectious disease called Covid-19." He said, "That is not what we're seeing."


Go and see him talk on the video. "This is not what we're seeing," he said. He said, "I've never seen anything like this, in terms of what I'm seeing in the lungs of these people and what these people are suffering and dying from." This is what he said. "Their lungs look like someone who's flying at 30,000 feet, and the cabin pressure disappears. The oxygen disappears. And they slowly die of lack of oxygen." He said another analogy. "It's like their lungs look like something I would expect if you took someone and you put them on the top of Everest with no acclimatization," and obviously no breathing apparatus. "You would expect their lungs to do that." He said, "I don't know what's going on, but it's not Covid-19. It's not an infectious disease. And I've never seen anything like it." And this is admitted by the telecommunications industry. 5G at 60 Gigahertz (GHz), which is where they want to take it - and I say already bloody have, on the quiet - stops the human body and blood absorbing oxygen. If someone is hit by 60 GHz frequencies of 5G, they will not be able to absorb enough oxygen. They will just collapse in the street.


Those symptoms, that outcome, is so exactly what this doctor in New York is describing he is seeing, but says, "I don't know what's going on. I've never seen anything like it." And let me just bring this around. They have not had enough dead people, despite fixing the figures and getting as many people to die of Covid-19 as possible, to justify the fact that it's this vastly deadly virus. But the same time the death figures are basically not going up of all causes, they're building morgues. They're turning football pitches into morgues. They're doing it in many, many countries. They're having preparations for lots and lots of dead people.


They don't fit. Just fixing the figures wouldn't justify filling those because they'd never do it. And if they're building all these massive mortuaries, etc., and the figures start to go down as they have in China - "Oh, we're through it" - they're going to look total prats. So, why are they doing it? Well, I'm not saying this is going to happen, but I'm saying this is something that we should watch for. This is why they're doing it now, rolling out all these 5G towers, etc., everywhere, these satellites. The more that they expand 5G, the more 5G is going to impact upon the population's health. And the more it impacts upon the population's health, the more they can say it's caused by Covid-19. And if they start firing out 5G at 60 GHz, they're going to have a lot of people who are going to keel over because they can't absorb oxygen.


Now, if they did that, they could start filling mortuaries, and they could say, "Look, this is the virus, what it's doing. We must have even more lockdown. It must go on, and on, and on, and on." So, we need to watch for that. Given the figures and the numbers we've had so far, if people start going down in large numbers anywhere in the world where there's 5G and end up in these mortuaries, we should start to question big time and put two and two together. Because that happening on the trajectory of figures so far would be unexplainable, but not if they're taking oxygen out of the atmosphere. And it could be done in a very small area. You can target an old people's home, and you can take the oxygen out with 5G, and people will die. And you'll say, "Covid-19". And you know what's happening? There's been what are now called citizen journalists, people who go out with their cameras and their phone cameras to film this stuff. What they're doing while the schools are closed, what they're doing while people are locked away is they're putting 5G into schools. You know where else they're putting 5G? Into freaking hospitals. They're putting 5G everywhere. And so, once this is set up, they have the ability to manipulate people psychologically and physically; and where this is all leading - well, part of where it's all leading - is to the vaccine.


10- The office of communications is censoring broadcasters


Brian: Now, before we get to the vaccine, there are hospitals that we've seen that are vacant. They're these emergency things that are vacant. Which means, like you said, they're not going to be used. Which is going to make this all look like a big overreaction, which is going to make all these lockdown powers be able to easily be reversed.


David: Yeah, exactly. So, the question is, are they going to allow that to happen and just say, oh, no. When these figures that the Imperial College and this Neil Ferguson prat claimed don't manifest, what are they going to say? The lockdown was the reason they didn't manifest. So, basically, they can't lose. But they locked down Italy on March the 9th, and figures have just gone up week after week, after week, after week. Whereas, in China, they went down like that. So, will they just let it go down, and that's the end of it? Or are they building these massively overreacting morgues, etc., for a reason? Because you're absolutely right. We are told by the media - and by the media, I don't mean journalists, by the way. They'll never be journalists. We're talking about war zone hospitals. Now, if they start using 60 GHz 5G to take out people absorbing oxygen, then they may well be war zone hospitals in that scenario. But as things are, they're not war zone hospitals. People have been going around all over the world - you're absolutely right what you say - to these war zone hospitals. They're freaking empty. They're empty. One guy went around a hospital in Stoke Mandeville for two hours filming everything. Bloody place was empty. "Why is this hospital empty? It's supposed to be a war zone." They've jailed him for doing that.


You look - you mentioned it earlier. This is very important point. We have in this country a government department, a government censor, called Ofcom, Office of Communications, which is the regulator of British broadcasters. They have said - and it's run by a lady called Melanie Dawes. We need to note these names down. And when we're through with this, at some level through it, these people have to be called to account. We have a situation where this lady and her organization, which is a government department, has told British broadcasters - and of course they've complied, spinelessly as usual - that they will face serious sanctions if they allow any discussion on their television stations and radio stations about any connection between 5G and so-called Covid-19.


The British government through this other idiot, the health secretary Matt Hancock whom you wouldn't let run a Lego house, says that everyone must stay at home - 66 million people in this country, sitting in their house and doing as they are told. People like him are now saying to the giants of Silicon Valley, your Zuckerbergs at Facebook, your Brins and Pages at Google, and your Wojcickis at Google-owned YouTube, etc., that they should ban people who are making a connection between 5G and this Covid-19 crisis.


So, that tells you, one, they couldn't care less about freedom and the right to free debate. Thus, they have no right to be in government and no right to be running a broadcast regulator. But it tells you something else. Number two, it tells you there is a link between 5G and this health crisis of Covid-19, as they call it. There is a link. There's only one reason they don't want it discussed, because there is a link. And who's been promoting 5G and the rollout of 5G? Who runs the licenses for 5G? Ofcom, same woman. So, there is a link between 5G and this so-called Covid-19, the situation we're facing. That's why they want to shut it down. If you can't win a debate - and they can't win this one - then don't have it. That is the motto of every tyranny in known human history.


Brian: And this is the only thing they're telling broadcasters not to talk about. They're not talking about don't talk about the vaccines, don't talk about this. It's this specific thing. And they're going out there - if I were a radio station or television station right now, I'd probably be arrested. We would be shut down today. But we're not because we're not governed by them - right now.


David: Right now. But they want the censorship to go on, and on, and on. Because when your conspiracy is control of perception, which means control of behaviour, and there is a virus and it's dangerous that has led to behaviour of compliance with house arrest, if people realize there is no freaking virus, and it's a total scam, then their likelihood of acquiescing in that way is less because their perception is different, so their behaviour is different. So, where does perception come from? It comes from information received. That's why they want to dominate control of information. And let's just ask this question. Say there's no connection whatsoever between 5G and this Covid-19 so-called pandemic. Say there's no connection. What harm is done by discussing whether there is, on a broadcast station? None.


So, the reason they don't want it discussed is there is a freaking link. And the fact that the broadcasters are just, "Oh, yes, miss. Sorry, miss," shows that they're next to being useless. It's websites like mine, it's London Real, and such organizations around the world where the real journalism goes on and the real information is made available to people because don't ask the mainstream to tell you. The BBC is not a news organization. It's a government department. What they call journalists are actually civil servants in truth. Call themselves journalists. They're not. You look at any situation, and the BBC will toe the establishment line and promote nothing but that line and allow questioning of it every time. BBC is long passed the point where it is any use to anyone except the government. And so, we come around to vaccines.


Brian: First of all, 5G towers in Belfast, Liverpool, Birmingham in the last week have been burned and - overnight because people are responding. There's all this stuff going on in Facebook groups. What do you think of that? And I know towards the end of this you are going to tell us about next steps for us. But what do you think about that action?


David: It's not for me to tell anyone what to do because that's their right to choose. But you look at the situation. And if 5G continues and reaches where they want to take it, human life as we've known is over. I've been saying this for so long. "Oh, you're mad. David Icke's mad." Oh, yeah, okay. You're not laughing now, are you? So, people have to make a decision.


I am, personally, absolutely anti-violence against people. And I don't see violence against people taking this absolutely anywhere. If you use violence against people in the name of doing something you believe to be right, then you're just a mirror of what you are seeking to fight. I have this phrase, "What you fight, you become. What you hate, you become." But people will have to make their own decisions. All I will say and repeat again - if this 5G continues, and this rollout continues, that's it. Over. So, what people decide to do about that is up to them.


But it's very clear that what's happened is people have been put under house arrest on this false premise. So, there's no gathering. There's no ability to protest. And so, they have free reign to rapidly deploy and expand 5G, while so many people have had their employment destroyed, have had their businesses destroyed because they are deemed by the government nonessential. Whereas, rapidly deploying 5G towers, with all their destructive and psychological potential, is deemed to be essential work. Now, you put that little lot together, and you can see that there is a massive conspiracy going on here to rollout 5G without protest. And that means it's not good for humanity. And Elon Musk, who's this Silicon Valley celebrity, is like all of these people involved in this, a super psychopath. He should be in jail for the rest of his human life. And I hope they would put him in the same cell as Bill Gates because they deserve each other. He is putting up more and more satellites, beaming this desperately destructive 5G at the Earth. When you're building a technological subreality to which every human being is connected via AI connections to the brain, then you have to create a situation where there is a, if you like, Wi-Fi field in every inch of the planet. The only way you're going to do that is from space, every inch of the planet. And that's what they're doing. And Elon Musk knows that, and that's why he's a psychopath. Talking of which, we may turn to Bill Gates.


Brian: And then, I want us to talk about the psychology of what all this is doing to us.


David: Exactly. So, where this is leading is a vaccine. And in that vaccine will be lots of genetic material, stuff that will trigger poison in the cells, which will trigger exosomes. But also in that vaccine will be nanotechnology microchips. I mentioned a few minutes ago that Elon Musk had got permission for a million ground antennae to interact with his satellites. These nano-microchips, which are being put into us in many ways, are well beyond the ability of human sight to see. That's why they're nano. And they are known as smart dust. Of course, "smart" on everything. They're known as nanobots. They're known as neurobots - lots of different names they give them. Smart dust will do. And the idea is to put them in the body. And they will act within humans like the ground antenna act with the satellites of Musk. They connect humans to this grid, this technological subreality, this AI-controlled subreality. So, we basically become nothing more than computer terminals. That's the idea.


11- The vaccine scam


I'll tell you a quick story, which will lead me round to nano-microchips and vaccines. In the late 1990s, I was asked to go and see a CIA scientist in California because he wanted to get out things that were going on, but he couldn't. And why he couldn't become very obvious. So, I went to see him at his house. He's in Southern California. And his family's there, and his children are there. And they gave me some food, and we had a long chat that evening. And he wanted to tell me things that were happening because he couldn't. He said he joined the CIA - he was a scientist - because he thought he was serving his country. And he said, when he got in, he realized that this conspiracy I had been exposing for 30 years was actually happening. That's why he contacted me. And he said, "I'm not doing it. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not doing that. I'm not playing a part in that." And he walked out.


He said, next thing he knew, he left home - after he walked out - and he said, "I've got missing time." He said, "I don't know what happened after that, but the next thing I know, after leaving home, is I woke up on this medical-type bench in this room." He was on his own. And he's lying there, and he gets his faculties back. And he realizes something's stuck to his chest. So, he opens his shirt. And he was opening his shirt and showing me as he was telling me this story. I seriously wasn't expecting it, I can tell you. And what happens as he opened his shirt, on his chest was like a see-through plastic shampoo sachet. And inside was this orangey liquid, orangey, golden-type liquid. And he said - because I'd asked him the question before he did this, "Why do you do what you do?" I knew what the answer was going to be, but I wanted him to tell me in his own words. "Why do you still work for them then?" He said, "Because of this."


In the CIA, they call these patches, someone's been "patched." And what they did in that missing time is they manipulate their bodies. He said there were at least a thousand other scientists who were patched at the time. We're talking late 1990s - 97, something like that. And he said, in that missing time, what they do is they manipulate your body to need the drug in the patch to survive. How they do it, I don't know. But they do it. And he said this patch has to be replaced every 72 hours. And if you are not repatched, then you start to die a very unpleasant death. And he said, "I called their bluff on one occasion to see if they were just scamming me. And they weren't messing. That's what happened." So, if he doesn't do and use his expertise to support the CIA in this whole global cult scam and conspiracy, then he's not repatched. And he actually said to me, "I'm holding back knowledge that I have that they want, and I'm letting them know I am because I know from other people it's happened to that, once they think they've taken everything they can get from you, they just don't repatch you because then you can't go and tell anybody what the hell's been going on." So, it took a lot of guts to talk to me.


Anyway, this is what he also told me. Now, remember, this is 1997-ish. No one's talking about nanotechnology really. Later it was - now it's in everything. It's in food. But they were talking about it then in the general arena. He said what they are doing is they are injecting people with tiny, tiny microchips that you can't see in vaccination programs. And he told me what these chips were for. And this is like late 90s. So, these vaccines that are promoted by Bill Gates and funded by Bill Gates like no one else on Earth, not least through an organization called GAVI. And Bill Gates and GAVI want to vaccinate everyone. And they want something else, this GAVI organization Bill Gates has been developing. They want - and this is the name they give - a quantum tattoo on everyone who's vaccinated so they can digitally tell if you've been vaccinated or not.


Now, where this is going is - this Covid-19 scam, eventually they will start to drop, and they'll ease the lockdown at some point. But what they're planning is other waves. And because the lockdown precedent has been set, there won't be any run-up to lockdown with any other wave. There will be immediate lockdown. This is what it's all about. And they're getting people psychologically subservient to that. And then, they will ask people to get the vaccine - and currently there are seven vaccines said to be in the works for Covid-19. Every single one is funded by Bill Gates. This is the same Bill Gates who was involved with his Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in Event 201, which was a simulation of a coronavirus pandemic and how the authorities would react - exactly as they have - six weeks before the thing came to public attention in China.


Also running that Event 201 simulation of a coronavirus pandemic was the World Economic Forum, which Gates is massively involved in, this is the one percent, and an organization called the Johns Hopkins University Medical Operation in America. Also, there was Johnson & Johnson who is now developing the vaccine for Covid-19. The Johns Hopkins organization that took part in that simulation, which turned out exactly as it's turned out, also ran a simulation in 2018 along the same lines. Who is collating the global figures quoted in the media of Covid-19 cases and deaths? The Johns Hopkins operation that was involved in these simulations.


12- The purpose of the one world government


David: The idea is that they'll say, if you want to come out of lockdown, and you don't want to keep going into lockdown, then you have got to have the vaccine that we say you have to have so that you are not a threat to the rest of the community.


Brian: And that gives you rights.


David: Yeah.


Brian: That's this passport that Bill Gates was talking about.


David: Yes. Bill Gates is one of the most sinister people on planet Earth. And so, you have a situation where this is where the game is going. You have this vaccine full of shite to control you and to undermine your health so that we can have more pandemics, or you can't mix with the rest of the community, you can't fly, etc. Now, this is why, this is the real reason why Gates and GAVI, this vaccine alliance, has developed this quantum tattoo - so that they can tell who's had the vaccine and who hasn't. And there'll be technology that you pass through which will pick it up when you, say, try to get on a plane. Oh, no, you can't. You've not been vaccinated.


Brian: Is it like a chip inside of you?


David: Well, yeah. In simple terms, that's basically what it will be. Exactly what technology they come up with. But the principle is exactly that. And when you pass through technology now at specific points, your temperature's going to be taken. The people that run Silicon Valley are so-called lovely people. They care deeply about humanity. So, first of all, what they've been doing - they've just released it, people like Google - is they're releasing mobile phone tracking data to governments so governments could see if there's any gathering of people during the lockdown.


Brian: Yeah. They found a bunch of kids who went to a spring break party on the beach, 70 of them, and they tracked them to 40 different states in America. I thought that was illegal to give their data up, but they're doing it.


David: Oh, once you have the lockdown, and you suspend democracy, which is what's happened, and you enter a tyranny that can only be described as fascistic, there are no legalities for humans anymore because the government does what it likes. And it's not the politicians. They're just clueless. It's the dark suits behind the government that drive it. So, that's only one step from the microchip, which is where they want to go. Whereby, they will track you wherever you go, in real time. And they will say, ongoing, that only this amount can ever gather together because they don't want mass protests. And they'll know if you do because they'll be tracking you. Now, let's go to China.


I've been saying in the books and talks for decades that if you want to see what they plan for the West tomorrow look at China today. In China, you have a situation whereby there are millions of face recognition cameras. The Metropolitan Police have just introduced face recognition cameras. See, in China, you've got an open tyranny, and so this is what's happening. In the West, it's "Oh, no, it's not a tyranny. We're just doing it because it's good". They have to do it slower. But now, they've suspended democracy. They can do it faster. So, they're rolling out all this 5G for instance. And so, in China, you've got millions of face recognition cameras, which are constantly tracking the population in real time. You are a number. See George Orwell. See Aldous Huxley. And I've seen documentaries where they've sent someone out on the streets of China to see how long it would take to find them - minutes, found you.


And what happens is these face recognitions cameras everywhere are - through AI, they're logging your behaviour. And what you do is you get social credits - you've been a good boy and girl - if you behave the way the government wants. If you don't, those credits are taken away. And when you reach a certain level of credits taken away, then you start to hit consequences. There are millions and millions of people in China, who through not behaving as the government wants, are now banned from flying or banned from even going on a train. And this is what is planned. It's total and utter control. And this Covid-19 scam, hoax has been designed to create, in very fast time, the very global centralization of power that we have - or I have been highlighting for 30 years was coming.


13- Totalitarian tiptoe


How did I know that? Because if you are willing to put in the hours and the sweat, day after day after day, and suspend your that-can't-be-true mind, you can uncover this conspiracy. And you can uncover what is planned because this is not put together in days or even decades.


How did Aldous Huxley with Brave New World in 1932 - how did he - why was he so bloody accurate on where the world is going now? Why was George Orwell so accurate with his book "1984", published in 1948, when he, like Huxley in his own way, were describing technology like telescreens? We now call them smart TVs. Although, the smart TVs today are nothing like what the telescreens are meant to be where you're constantly watched in your own home. How did people like Orwell - Eric Blair, his real name - how did he know this technology was coming when it didn't exist?


How did a man called Dr Richard Day, who was an executive of the Rockefeller organization Planned Parenthood, which came out of the eugenics movement, how did he know in 1969, that the internet was coming? You look at what this Dr Richard Day said in a presentation to paediatricians in Pittsburg, Pennsylvania, in 1969, what was going to happen in the world, and it is extraordinary, not just in theme, in fine detail. One of the things that he told them that night, "We're going to make boys and girls the same." None of this is by accident. It's all by design. And he described the internet - was supposed to have been invented in the 1980's - he described it 1969. He described mass migrations of people into Europe in 1969, that it was coming and why.


So, how did they know this? Because there is a long, planned agenda for humanity leading to total and utter control through AI and control of AI and perception. And it's going step by step, by step, by step. It's what I call the totalitarian tiptoe. You go in steps. And each step is promoted as unconnected to the other steps until you get down the line, you look back, and you see where all the apparently, but not, unconnected steps have taken you, in very clear and obvious direction.


If you are an insider like Day, (Day was an executive of Planned Parenthood, which came out of the eugenics movement and was created by the Rockefeller Family. Bill Gates' father was head of the Planned Parenthood and a supporter of Malthus, the eugenicist, as was Bill Gates. And so, these organizations keep coming up again and again in relation to all these different people because they're all bloody connected); so, if you're an insider like Day, you know what's coming. And if you work your bloody ass off to uncover it, then you can predict what's coming. This is why my books over the last 30 years, as people are now recognizing, have been just extraordinarily prophetic in what's happening now. Why? Because if there is an agenda for the world, and nothing intervenes to stop it - which is the whole point of my life, trying to make that happen - then it will happen. And in uncovering the agenda and saying this is the plan, you will, without an intervention, be predicting the future. And the reason my books are so accurate in predicting the future is they're just revealing what the plan is.


Now, the Chinese have a word, which means both danger and opportunity. We, ladies and gentlemen of the human race, are now at a point of danger and opportunity. If people go on sitting on their ass and acquiescing, "Woof, woof. Yes, sir" - if people think it's bad now, whoa, what? They've not even started yet. And I've been saying in the last 30 years to people who've laughed in my face, "You go and look at your children and your grandchildren in the eye and you justify to them you're doing nothing. Because if you think it's bad for you, just have some imagination and see the world of total utter control, dystopia that your children and your grandchildren are going to live in. And you come and tell me then that you're not prepared to get off ass, to start thinking about consequences."


I'll give you bloody consequences in where we're going if we do not put aside - "Yeah, but what are the consequences for me?" What are the consequences of you not doing it? We have to stop acquiescing to this cult. And let me put it in perspective. We have a health secretary who's not got - I see no evidence that he has two brain cells to rub together. He's not making the decisions. He's just a front man for the real power in the background, the advisors and such. But Matt Hancock says you must do this, and 66 million, without even thinking about it, do it. And we sit, and we cook in the ever-expanding 5G. It goes to 60 gigahertz, and we can't freaking breathe. And people are sitting there, "Well, you can't. The government says."


We are at a pivotal point in the history of the human race, literally, because there will be no human race as we know it if we don't get our asses in gear now, worldwide. And people have said to me over the years, Brian, "A few people can't control the world. That's ridiculous." They've got half the freaking world locked down under house arrest, tiny few people, in a matter of weeks. What do you mean they can't? They are.


14 - Elon Musk's involvement in Covid-19


So, how long are we going to take it? Because the next thing they'll start doing is sorting out the food. What can put people under more dependency than the state controlling food? And I'll tell you where this is going. I've said this before, but this is where it's going. They're moving eventually into a situation where food as we've known it will go. It will be synthetic food. You know all these attacks on meat and stuff and all these different wars of food? It's a steppingstone. It's the totalitarian tiptoe. What industry has been destroyed as much as any in the world as a result of this lockdown? Restaurants and etc. And they're not meant to exist in the long term because they want to control food. Because if they control food, they control you. Because if you don't do what you said, you don't get any food. This is where we're going and ultimately to the AI connection to the human, where we won't even be thinking our own thoughts anymore. AI will be doing our thinking for us.


Brian: Is that through the nanotechnology in the vaccine?


David: Yeah. But they're telling us, Brian. This guy, Ray Kurzweil, another bleeding psychopath in Silicon Valley, a Google Executive, he says by 2030 humans will start to have their brains connected to AI. And these are his words, not mine, "When that happens, AI will do more and more of human thinking, until eventually human thinking as we know it will be virtually negligible." They're his words. I summarize. Now, we have this psychopath Elon Musk. And he came out some years ago - you might remember - and said, "AI could be the end of humanity." And so, what does he do? He starts a company called Neuralink to connect the human brain to computer, right. And he also runs this SpaceX organization. It's putting the satellites up. But he also runs Tesla, Tesla cars, right. And they're electric cars, right, electric cars.


British government has just done it - why are they phasing out petrol cars and diesel cars? Because where they're going is autonomous vehicles where the computer will decide where you can go. Petrol car, you get in it. You drive where you want to go. When you're in an autonomous car, you will go only to the limits that the computer will take the car. And those computers will be encoded so that you go nowhere the government doesn't want you to go. And now, these autonomous cars - you know these smart motorways that they're building in Britain? They call the smart motorways. It's very dangerous, killing a lot of people. But they don't care. They're psychopaths. The reason they're building these smart motorways is for autonomous vehicles.


Uber, another Silicon Valley company, is losing phenomenal amounts of money in its global taxi business because money is no object. Money is no object. Money was no object for Amazon when it was losing unbelievable amounts of money as it was getting a bigger and bigger monopoly. And of course, as a result of this lockdown, it's market share globally is going to be vastly larger with all the businesses destroyed than it was before. So, Uber, its business model is autonomous vehicles, autonomous "taxis". So, all this money's being pumped. Money no object no matter how much you're losing. And what they're doing to get that monopoly is they're destroying taxi businesses all over the world so they have the monopoly. What has this lockdown done? It's devastated the taxi business, but not Uber.


And so, you can't have autonomous cars, and petrol cars, and diesel cars. So, they're phasing out petrol and diesel on this ludicrous idea that humans are causing climate change, which is another one-percent hoax run by computer model out of the same people that are running the computer models of the so-called virus. The autonomous vehicles are run by electricity. So, the electric cars - "Is to save the environment" - are merely the stepping-stone to electrical autonomous vehicles. And Musk knows that.


15- The hunger games society


David: I've described this society they're creating so rapidly now as the Hunger Games society, where you've got a tiny few one percent running everything and the rest of the population in servitude and in dependency on the one percent. What has this lockdown around the world done? Exactly that, on purpose. That's why they've done it. And in the middle is a police military state to hold that status quo.


Brian: You need to explain what that's done economically as well and how that links to the universal basic income.


David: See, that Hunger Games society I've just described is not possible while vast numbers of the population have independent income. You can't crash people into this poverty stricken, deprived masses - which is what this Hunger Games society is supposed to be - if people have independent income, or businesses, and stuff like that because they've got the money not to fall there. So, what they've done is they've destroyed all those businesses and all that employment. Many of them will never open again. And what have they done? They've created mass global dependency on the state. And if you take this state, and this state, and this state, and this state, and you go to the next level, you have the cult that's orchestrating the whole freaking thing.


Brian: The stimulus packages. They just passed one in the States, $2 trillion to $6 trillion. Now they want to do another one and another one.


David: And what that's going to do is destroy governments economically. And then, what they're going to say is, "The economic system as we've known is no longer sustainable. It is no longer possible for it to survive. So, what we're going to do, because we care so deeply about the human race, is to bring in a whole new economic system, which will all be based on a digital currency," which I've been predicting in my book since about 1993. And everything you do and everything you purchase, they we will know about and, they can decide any time if you can purchase or not. If you go into a store now, and you hand over a credit card, digital money, and they try your card, and they say, "Sorry, won't take your card. Computer won't take your card" - you can say okay, I'll pay cash then. So, when there's no cash and notes - because this virus scam ticks every box for this cult, everything I've said from the beginning are justifying by what's happening. They're saying money's dangerous because you could catch the virus from it. It's bollocks. And so, people that used to take cash are not taking cash anymore because they think they might catch the bleeding virus, right. And you've got the people - the company that's running the ATMs actually came out about three, four days ago and said, by the end of summer, cash could be finished because of the virus.


Brian: And the UK just introduced plastic cash, which probably holds the virus longer.


David: Yeah. It's nothing to do with health. It's all about control. It's just such crap. Anyway, so when cash is gone, which is the idea, you only have digital money - and what it's planned to be is everything on your microchip. See, totalitarian tiptoe - step, step, step, step. They've now gone to your phone. They've gone from your cash. They've gone now from your credit card and have gone to your phone. So, now, it's digital phone, everything on the phone. And that phone becomes the microchip. It's only one step away now. It's all in my books in the 90's.


16- The dangers of technocracy


David: And so, you go into a store, and you pay with your chip or your whatever. And they say, "Sorry, computer won't take your card. Oh, it won't take your digital money." So, how are you going to purchase now? You are not. And dissidents of this system - which I will be one to my last freaking breath - will go off the Christmas card list of the computer very early on. It's all about total and utter control.


Brian: Which is what they do in China now, again.


David: Yeah. And as I was saying, this Hunger Games society, it is fascism it is communism, which are different names for the same tyrannies really, centralization of power in the hands of the few. But the real name - although, the fascism and the communism, the way it plays out is basically the same. But the way it's done is different. It's a technocracy they're creating. And technocracies - global technocracy. And technocracies are defined as societies that are controlled by bureaucrats, not elected politicians. They're going. That's the plan. The more they can discredit politicians in the public mind, the more the public will say, "Oh, yeah. Well, they're useless anyway. Yeah, let's have a technocracy." So, it's run by bureaucrats, by scientists, by engineers, by technocrats.


All these people in Silicon Valley are technocrats. And the technocrats of Silicon Valley are already running the world - and we should not forget Israel either because that's the second Silicon Valley of the world now, as staggering as it may seem. Most politicians haven't got a clue of what goes on in Silicon Valley, let alone understand legislating for it. They're running it. The Gates are running the whole vaccine operation. They're running the World Health Organization. And so, the technocrats are already taking over. And the more you move into this technological, technocratic society of AI - the technocrats are taking over because the politicians have become irrelevant.


Now, whose grandfather was head of the technocratic party of Canada in the 30's, which was campaigning for just such a society? Elon Musk. There's no way that he's doing what he's doing by accident. And he will know what he's doing. And these people need not celebrating, the Gates, and the freaking Musks, and the Bezoses - another one - and the Brins and the Pages at Google, and the Wojcickis at YouTube. They don't need celebrating. They need calling out. They need exposing for what they're doing, which is building this technocratic nightmare, dystopian society based on AI and total censorship of any other form of view or information that is at odds with the official narrative, which is why Ofcom and Melanie freaking Dawes are banning discussion of the link between 5G and Covid-19 in British broadcasters.


And let me say this, Brian. Let me say this to the broadcasters. Let me say this to everybody who's just accepting this. Let me say it to law enforcement. "Daddy, what were you doing when the global fascist state came in and the economic system was destroyed, and now we have to do everything the state say or we don't get our pittance every month? What were you doing, Daddy?" The population, "I was just sitting there, darling." Journalists, "I was helping to bring it in, darling, by lying to the public." Law enforcement, "I was enforcing it, darling." All the bloody best with that conversation with your kids and grandkids, when you face the fact and the reality of what's going on.


17- The brutal lockdown


David: And I say this to law enforcement, you know. There are a lot of intelligent, genuine, decent people in law enforcement. But there are, at the same time, some monumental morons and some serious psychopaths, who are loving this now... I say to the decent, intelligent, genuine police, law enforcement people in this country, your children and your grandchildren are going to have to live in the world you are enforcing - same with the military. You're enforcing laws, not to protect the public, but to protect and enforce the will of a cult that makes psychopaths look like Mother Teresa. What are you doing? Look your children in the eye! Look your grandchildren in the eye! And tell me that you're going to go on enforcing a fascist tyranny that is going to ensnare those kids as much as anyone else's. Take your uniform off. Leave the force. We can't appeal to the psychopaths. We can't appeal to the morons in uniform. But we can appeal to the very large number of decent, caring, genuine people in the law enforcement. What are you doing enforcing fascism?


Brian: What do the rest of us do, David? What do we do?


David: It's not for me to tell people what to do. It's for me to point out the consequences of sitting on your ass, letting a handful of psychopaths and idiots - because that's the dynamic - destroy your future, destroy your livelihood, destroy your kids' future and your grandkids' future. You go on sitting on your ass, and that is an absolutely gimme. What have you got to lose? What is there to lose? Most people have lost everything anyway, so what you got to lose?


18- Life in lockdown


David: If you are faced with an army coming at you, if you got somewhere to run, you'll likely run. Army's symbolic of this freaking cult and all its agencies. But when you end up in a canyon and there's only one way out, and that army's coming through that way out, well, what are you going to do? There's nowhere to run. So, you stand up, and you say, "We're not having this. We're not having this. You want me to do this? You want me to do that? Well, I am not doing it." Because when you've got nowhere to run, you got nothing to lose.


And you know what's happened as a result of this lockdown? Humanity has nowhere to run anymore. So, what are you going to do? Are you just going to take it? You're going to let the tiny few do this to you? Or are you going to say, "I'm not having it"? And I'll tell you what I do. I go out whenever I freaking like, right, whenever I choose. And I don't go near anybody. Because although I say they're buying a monumental lie, I respect their right and their belief that they're in some kind of freaking danger. So, I don't go near them. I won't go near them. I like my own company to a large extent. So, what I do is I walk out my house, don't see anybody. Get in my car on my own, and I drive out into the countryside. And I walk, don't see anybody - a person nowhere near me. And then, I walk back, and I get in my car. And I drive home. I get out my car, and I walk back into my flat. I don't see anybody. Now, I'm allowed to do that, according to these psychopaths and idiots, once a day in Britain. Now, I've said to them, "Send me someone in uniform. I don't care what fancy dress it is. Send me a dark suit. And if they can explain to me why me doing what I've just described 10 times a day is going to harm anyone, even by what I say is your ludicrous criteria, then I'll stop doing it." But they never will be able to do that because, of course, it's total freaking nonsense.


And the fact it's nonsense, the fact that going out on your own and away from everybody - if you do it once or 10 times a day, doesn't matter. You're still not going to harm anybody, even by their ludicrous criteria. But you can only go out once. That tells you what this is about. It's not about health. It's about control. And it's about a control agenda that goes back ridiculous amounts of time and is now heading towards its fruition. This is all in my books in great detail, the ancient-modern nature of this, because this is not something that's new. It's something that's now reaching its end game. And 8 billion people, nearly 66 million in Britain, opposed to a tiny number of people locking everyone down, tiny. I think I see a way out of this.


Brian: What's the way, David? What's the way out of this? Us choosing to make a decision based on our own knowledge, and our own research, and our own gut feeling of what's right?


David: Let me just say this. We got into this freaking mess through acquiescence to power. All of that power is simply our perception that it has power. Sixty-six million, handful, I don't think it has. So, if we got into this mess by acquiescing to the illusion of power, what's the freaking answer? Ceasing to do so. And then, we'll see where the real power is. And it's not with the few. [...]


Brian: I think that's exactly where we're going to leave this today, David.


David: I'm going to shake your hand. And you dare give me Covid-19 that doesn't exist!


[End of Interview]


19- Conclusion


Now that you have understood what is behind this comedy called Covid-19, it's up to you to make your arrangements. Do no longer fall into the trap of lies spread by the decision-makers of this world, who are all followers of lucifer, whose mission is to destroy humanity. Be vigilant. Be enlightened. Flee 5G like the plague. Protect yourself from the waves, as they are extremely harmful to health. Avoid all microwave devices, and avoid the use Wi-Fi as much as possible. Wi-Fi gradually destroys your health.


You can fight Coronavirus, either preventively or curatively. The solutions exist. So if you already have it, do not panic. Coronavirus, like all the other flus, is treatable, and with great ease. Do not be distracted by the demons of the World Hexerei Organization (WHO), whose real mission is to keep the whole world sick. These hypocrites who give you the impression that they are working for your health, are working hard to make sure that you will never be healthy. Now you're warned.


WHO psychopaths systematically fight any remedy that can really cure you, and ensure they make available to you only poisons that they call medicines or vaccines, whose only purpose is to destroy your life. While many African doctors and researchers are curing their populations with effective and proven remedies that they have made, the WHO dementia experts tell you that there is currently no evidence of any remedy that can prevent or cure the Coronavirus. They are determined to impose on the world the dangerous new poison they are making. This poison is called Covid-19 Vaccine.


Several effective remedies for Coronavirus exist. You simply have to choose the one you prefer. If you prefer to be treated by modern medicine, there are several African doctors and researchers who are treating Coronavirus with great success. One of them, Doctor Valentin AGON, has developed a drug called Apivirin 500, which completely destroys the Coronavirus in 3 days. Do not be surprised if the idiots at the Pharmaceutical Regulatory Agency ban this drug, telling you that it has not been authorized or validated by the WHO.


Do no longer let those lunatics decide for you what is good or bad for you. Know that these criminals work for the interests of the pharmaceutical cartels, and not for you. Your life does not interest them. Please remember once and for all that you were not created by these mentally ill people. So neither of them has the right to decide whether you are going to live or die. Do not let them make you their creatures anymore, disposing of your lives as they see fit.


If you prefer natural medicine, you should first know that several African Naturopaths have developed various combinations of natural remedies against Coronavirus. Some of these combinations can be found in a document entitled "Natural Medicine Responds to Coronavirus", which can be found on the website www.mcreveil.org, in Health Section.


You should also know that President Andry Rajoelina of the Big African Island called Madagascar, with the help of African Doctors and Researchers, headed by Dr Jerome Munyangi, has produced a very effective remedy against Coronavirus. This remedy in the form of herbal tea called Covid-Organics, which is produced from the Artemisia plant, works in just seven days. This remedy is so effective that to date there is no deaths from coronavirus in Madagascar. Go and ask the World Hexerei Organization (WHO) sorcerers what they think of this remedy, and you will understand the reason behind the different qualifiers that we have used to describe them.


Remember that Artemisia, which is currently used in Madagascar to prevent and cure Coronavirus, is the same product that the African Doctor-Researcher, Jérôme Munyangi, has used to prevent and cure Malaria. Dr Jerome Munyangi was almost assassinated by the mafia of pharmaceutical cartels, and the WHO he works for, is against this remedy. France and Belgium have banned this remedy. With this you easily understand the hypocrisy of these demons who claim to care about your health.


Let us also recall that in a Central African country called Cameroon, a country ruled for 40 years by scoundrels of the worst kind, a field of several hectares of Artemisia was destroyed a few months ago in the city of Bangangte, without any reason, by idiots who for a few banknotes are willing to sacrifice millions of lives. And as if that wasn't enough, the owner of this field was arrested as a common criminal and held in police custody by that bunch of scum abusively called administrative authorities.


Finally, you should know that by adopting a good diet, you can cure yourself of Coronavirus and all other natural diseases. To learn more, read the article entitled "Sickness and Nutrition", which you can found on the website www.mcreveil.org, in the Health Section.


We also recommend reading the articles entitled "C Medicine: An Organized Genocide", "Vaccine: An Extremely Dangerous Poison", and "The Truth about AIDS". These articles are of great importance for understanding how the satanists of this world manipulate men through diseases and the so-called solutions they offer to treat these diseases. You will find these articles on the website www.mcreveil.org, in the Health section.


In conclusion, we would like to express our gratitude to the Researcher David Icke for the risk he took in exposing this satanic plan, and to the Journalist Brian Rose who put his TV channel at risk by doing this interview, despite the threats he had received. This interview has been banned by YouTube, Vimeo, Facebook, and the British telecommunications regulator Ofcom. If you are interested in other articles dealing with subjects that the lying media do not cover, feel free to visit David Icke's site, DavidIcke.com, or Brian Rose's site, londonreal.tv.


Grace to all who love our Lord Jesus Christ with an undying love!




Dear brothers and sisters,


If you have run away from fake churches and would like to know what to do, here are the two options available to you:


1- See if around you there are some other children of God who fear God and desire to live according to the Sound Doctrine. If you find any, feel free to join them.


2- If you do not find one and wish to join us, our doors are open to you. The only thing we will ask you to do is to first read all the Teachings that the Lord has given us, and which are on our website www.mcreveil.org, to reassure yourself that they are in conformity with the Bible. If you find them in accordance with the Bible, and are ready to submit to Jesus Christ, and live by the demands of His word, we will gladly welcome you.


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